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The Correct Method for Authenticating
Undated Ticket Stubs

October 2014

A study in dating Grandstand Ticket Stubs reveals that collectors are spending thousands of dollars on ticket stubs that are not correctly dated. Ticket stubs that are being sold on eBay, private auction houses and authenticated by trusted companies such as PSA, and SGC.

 Since Yankee Stadium opened in 1923, and up until at least 1979 the date was not included on Grandstand & Bleacher ticket stubs. The importance of dating a ticket stub correctly could mean the difference of the stub having a collectors value of $20. or a value of $4,000. A mistake by just one year for a game number could be the difference. PSA Authenticated Sept. 26 1961 Ticket Stub

Using ticket prices, sales tax information, the name of the printing company, team logo, game number, team president, and ticket design, these undated stubs can be narrowed down to a specific year, if not within a range of a year or two.

The ticket on the right is from 1972 but was dated to 1961 by PSA.

Correct Method in Dating the
Ticket on the right

 A - The first step in dating a ticket stub would be to check the price. If PSA would have checked this first it would have sent up a red flag on the date that was rubber stamped onto this stub. As listed in the 1961 Yankees Scorecard, the price for a grandstand ticket was $1.30. Grandstand tickets from 1962 to 1976 had a price of a $1.50 with the exception of 1974 ($1.30)

Note: Pictured below is the ticket prices from the 1961 Yankees scorecard. The grandstand ticket is a $1.30 (including All City & Federal Taxes)

Yankees ticket prices from the 1961 scorecardB - The Tax line on this ticket reads "State & City Tax" This line rules out the stub being dated before 1966. New York State did not adopt a sales tax until August of 1965. The State tax was not added to the sale of tickets until 1966, and the abbreviation ST. for State (ST. & City) is used from 1966-1969. It is not until 1970 when the stubs read "State & City" The wording of this tax information can be found on all dated tickets for each year from 1970-1979.

C - The small sized Yankees logo watermark (9/16" diameter) on this ticket was not used until 1970. From 1951 through 1969 the grandstand tickets featured a Yankees logo Watermark that measured 15/16" in diameter. This change in design also coincides with the Yankees switching to a new printing company to print Grandstand and Bleacher tickets. 1961 Yankees Grandstand ticket stub

Pictured to the right is a Grandstand ticket stub (correctly dated to 1961) that features the 15/16" Yankees logo used from 1951-1969, the correct price of a $1.30, the correct tax line (Fed & City as opposed to State & City), and the printing company credit line, Ansell-Simplex Ticket Co.

D - The Printing company credit line featured on the back of the ticket stub above reads "National Ticket Co. Shamokin PA" This company was not used by the Yankees for the printing of Grandstand tickets until 1970. The Ansell-Simplex Ticket Co. was used to print all tickets from 1951-1969, the same years the 15/16" Yankees Logo watermark design was used.

The date of a Grandstand ticket stub cannot be identified by a date plugged by a rubber stamp, or even by the writing placed there by a collector or the attendee to the game. In my study I only found 3 stubs out of a thousand that were dated with a rubber stamp. All 3 can be proven to be dated wrong, and all 3 were dated to games attributing them to a significant player milestone, with high collectors value.

I have found a hoard of stubs with the wrong date mistakenly written on them by collectors, with no doubt that they are wrong. Pictured on the left is a ticket stub with the wrong year ('69) written on the back by the person that attended the game, along with the correct game details, and the game date is printed on the front ('68). It happens. We all make mistakes,

It should not be taken for granted that if a stub is being sold with a program, that the two came from the same game or even the same year. I have also found many stubs being sold with programs from different years. Outside of stubs being stapled to the cover, and believe me I have found some that just came short of being welded to the program, loose stubs can be separated from the correct program and mistakenly placed with the wrong one.

The ticket stub pictured above, that was authenticated by PSA as being dated to September 26, 1961, the game Roger Maris hit his 60th home run to tie Babe Ruth for the single season home run record, sold for $717. and is in fact from 1972.

 The information described above (price, Tax info, stub design & printing company) narrows the date to the 1970-1972 era. The .10 cents sales tax (.09 cents in 1971) dates it to 1972 or 1973 but in '73 the design and size of the ticket is changed, and the term "Grandstand" is dropped in favor of "General Admission."  For more information on correctly dating Grandstand and Bleacher ticket stubs, visit the Grandstand Rain Check Ticket Stub Dating Guide

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